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      Because it’s short-sighted and ridiculous. Yes Russia bombs are bad, yes some NATO bombs are necessary but many are also bad, some Israeli bombs may have been necessary in the past but are now overwhelmingly bad.

      This is dumb “tankie” talk that tries to push people into corners that are comfortable for the OP so that they don’t have to use their brain and think about whether people’s world views may be more complex and (eep!) sometimes more well-thought of than their own simplistic view of “NATO bad - Communism good”.

      And lastly, as many posts on here, it simply reeks of anti-western propaganda.

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        There is not a single good bomb thrown by Israel in history, just like Russia hasn’t thrown a good bomb in the history of the Ukraine conflict. The reasoning is exactly the same. Israel, like Russia, is the aggressor, the occupier in this conflict, since its very inception. It’s very clear from your comments that you don’t read history, and it would serve you well to be less confident about the things you clearly don’t really know about.

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          “Bla bla bla, hurrdurr you clearly don’t read history, look at me, smarter than anyone!” *Beats chest like a fucking gorilla

          That is what you sound like.

          I am very well aware of the history. The issue here is that you just can’t wrap your head around the fact that there are actual terrorists that threaten actual, innocent (yes Israeli) people. People who didn’t choose to be born in Israel, kids, teenagers at a music festival.

          Good bombs can be thrown by bad regimes. Until you can wrap your head around that one there is indeed no point in arguing. Not because I don’t know about things, but because you don’t. Stop trying to sound smart because your black and white views are anything but. See you around, gorilla boy.

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            You know what bombs do? They kill people, indiscriminately, especially when you throw them on desnsely populated civilian centers that you’ve driven 100s of thousands of refugees into. They don’t defend against “terrorist” attacks on your occupied soil, they only serve to invite more. What are you going to tell me next, “muh human shields”? Fuck off.

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              No way, bombs kill people?

              And more bad faith arguments after you’ve accused me of making them?

              Where have I said that throwing bombs on civilian centres are good? You fucking dense motherfucker.

              Don’t tell me to fuck off when you’re arguing like a fucking retard MAGA scumbag.

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                issue here is that you just can’t wrap your head around the fact that there are actual terrorists that threaten actual, innocent (yes Israeli) people. People who didn’t choose to be born in Israel, kids, teenagers at a music festival.

                Where have I said that throwing bombs on civilian centres are good? You fucking dense motherfucker.

                Where the fuck are the bombs “protecting” the people at that music festival going, HMMMMM?

                It’s fucking hilarious to see you call someone else dumb when you can’t even think through the second order events that come from your statement. To paraphrase you:

                Where else do you think those bombs are going to fall? You fucking dense motherfucker.

                You’re talking about retaliation against civilians for the actions of terrorists, and those civilians are packed into dense areas by the people who drop the bombs on them.

                No one said you thought they were good, that’s your lazy deflection to not acknowledge that it’s happening. How can you not see this?

                Sees the slur

                Yeah, they’re arguing like a magat scumbag, not you…

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                  Whatever dude, you MAGA fucktards are all the same.

                  Yes you’re fucking dumb if all your brain is capable of is black and white. Nice and easy, but not the way the world works. Good bombs thrown by bad people on other bad people’s heads and all.

                  I’m not talking about retaliation either. So if you have to tell me what I’m talking about and have to “paraphrase” me to make an actual point, then maybe, just maybe you don’t really have a point.

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        That’s alot of assumption from a meme. Edit Addendum: I’m pretty sure the meme is a reference to how specifically media portrays bombs from various countries as opposed to any actual moral claim about bombs.

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          Maybe you should have a look at OP’s post history.

          I think I’m pretty accurate in my analysis ;)

          Edit: and yes, of course it is a meme about how media (and certain people) portray these bombs. That doesn’t change what I said at all, and in fact what I said is based on that very same premise.

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        I wonder why some people push “anti-western propaganda”

        Maybe it’s because the west keeps doing deplorable things.

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        Lol Israeli and NATO bombs were necessary? Man, may God forgive you for your lack of humanity and overall ignorance.

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            But I did and you’re just pushing Western imperialist propaganda, what’s going on here? Israel is literally a Western colony that destabilises the rest of the region and is genociding the locals, the West has done nothing but terrorise the world for hundreds of years… Are you denying this or what?

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          I mean I can’t speak for the other person, but I find Nato Bombs and munitions killing russian fascists very necessary.

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      I didn’t, but I’m assuming they just haven’t heard anyone say that it’s good to be nuked by NATO.

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    Aggressive bomb definitely bad, defensive bomb probably impossible, preemptive bomb difficult to distinguish from aggressive bomb

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    Top of the bell curve shit post. I’d argue about operation noble anvil but, that would put me at the bottom of the curve.

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        It’s the only time I defend NATO as an institution for defending a marginalized group.

        Am I right? Fuck if I know but at least I believe in something.

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          They did not defend a marginalized group. they needed a Balkan country for a military base (and other pedophilic needs for your masters), so they made one up. Once this base is not needed, you and your fellow Americans will forget that these made-up marginalized groups ever existed.