• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    • That never happened

    • There’s no proof that happened

    • It’s more complicated than you’re describing

    • Those were just some bad actors

    • Okay, but that was under the Other Party. My Party would never do that

    • (Repeat 1. Thru 4.)

    • Okay but we’re reforming now. You should give us some credit!

    • It’s all in the past! Why do you keep bringing up Old Shit?!

    • Whataboutism

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    • Boarding Schools.
    • Eugenics, including forced sterilization.
    • Nuclear weapons.
    • Internment of Japanese.
    • Hiring of Nazis after WWII, after inspiring them before WWII.
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      Reconstruction failure, Jim Crow institutionalized which was the ultimate inspiration for the Nazis to model their claimed superior race society after.

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      The US helped to found and popularize the Nazi party. Ford and other industrialist literally bank rolled the Nazi empire. Ford built factories in Germany and let them keep the profits. Nazism was very popular in the US because its policies were based off US policies.

      Hitler was inspired by the way the US genocided the Native Americans. This is where the Holocaust came from. When Hitler initially decided to expel the Jews wealthy industrialists lobbied the US government not to take them in. They helped stroke anti-Jewish sentiment in Europe and ensured that no other country would take them in.

      This lead to the final solution. IBM and other US companies gave material support to the Nazi. Those numbers tattooed on Jewish prisoners were from a census system IBM developed. Later, they used their computing power to figure out how many jews to ship from the ghettos to the death camps without backing anything up. Basically they handled the logistics of the Holocaust.

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      Hiring of Nazis after WWII, after inspiring them before WWII.

      Don’t leave out Unit 731, where they did shit that would make the Nazi’s look like Jr high science experiments by comparison…who were given the exact same deals as Paperclipped Nazis

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        Indeed, all for medical science and biological warfare. The good old USA gave small pox blankets to the Native Americans, then there’s Operation Sea Spray, and now 45,000 croak directly from a piss poor healthcare system and 200,000 die from contributing factors. WTF kind of social experiment is that?

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      Don’t forget that the US government gave Joseph Mengele a new identity. the Angel of Death… got a kiss on the lips, lots of money, and a good luck from America.

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    Just outside of view:

    - Human Radiation Experiments, Holmesburg Prison experiments, San Quentin Prison experiments, Stateville Penitentiary Malaria Studies, Guatemala Syphilis Experiment, Ohio State Penitentiary Cancer Study, Belmont Report

    - Ludlow Massacre, Battle of Blair Mountain, Coal Wars

    - Kent State Massacre, Jackson State Killings, Orangeburg Massacre

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      A couple of those were directly profit motivated vs the government choosing to do some f’d up stuff on their own. Yeah, government stepped in, but who started the problem isn’t the same. Either way, wealthy people pushing the government to crush the peasantry for them isn’t much difference.

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    I’ve never heard about the St.Louis Poisoning before… Surely it cant be yet another immoral, insane, evil program targeting black americans, right?

    Fuck

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    I read about MK Ultra, and that is some weird, fucked up shit. Also, most of the records were destroyed, so who knows what else they got up to? Fucking monsters.

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        Funny you say that, guess what happened after the war, when they were captured by the Americans?

        Total immunity for all their war crimes, in exchange for their research. Apart from a handful who had vivisected American pilots, anyway, but the ones who experimented on Chinese victims got off scot free.

        The US would go on to employ chemical and biological warfare extensively in Korea shortly after, as well as in Vietnam.

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          I mean I can only imagine what’s happening with Elon’s neuralink tests and trials with locations so close to some of the immigration concentration camps.

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    Don’t forget the Phoenix project. 85k Vietnamese civilians assassinated or tortured to death by the CIA.

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    Funny how all the major parks in US cities and highways just happen to always destroy a minority neighborhood.

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    Ron Funches’ routine was great. “You don’t believe any conspiracy theories? Like, you just believe the government is batting 1.000 in terms of telling the truth?”

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    Huh? What does foreign countries’ fucked up shit have to do with the government?

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    Just because absurd but promising ideas were tried when they maybe shouldn’t have does not mean the government is stalkingyou.

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      No, we know the US government is stalking us more from the Snowden leaks than what’s listed here.

      But also, “absurd but promising ideas” is whitewashing this stuff to a truly ridiculous degree. This stuff wasn’t like, “We think psychic powers might exist so we’ll test if people can tell what card I’m holding.” We’re talking about intentionally infecting black men with syphilis to use as guinea pigs. Was that “an absurd but promising idea?”

      How Donald Ewen Cameron, who was paid by the CIA to pose as a legitimate doctor and abduct Canadian citizens who came in with everyday symptoms like headaches, and he’d put them in months-long comas and electrocute them and inject LSD and do God knows what else to them because he burned his research notes?

      That’s only the tip of the iceberg. You might as well say that Josef Mengele just let his curiosity get a little bit out of hand.

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        Mk ultra sounds pretty smart. And it is. If stimulants could reduce your risk of death would you not use them?

        Some medical experiments of the past don’t hold up to modern scrutiny and also were abhorrent at the time.

        But the government is not stalking you personally. There is no van of cops following you at all times.

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          Mk ultra sounds pretty smart. And it is. If stimulants could reduce your risk of death would you not use them?

          I have no idea how these sentences are connected.

          There is no van of cops following you at all times.

          No one said there was?