If America has failed to provide paths to success for it’s own citizen, it’s because the very successful have destroyed those paths, not because Americans have failed. The end of this thinking is America is inhabited only by very rich people and slaves, regardless of whether they are citizens or not. This thinking will kick out the tired, the poor, the huddled American masses yearning to be free that it created. Shapiro and co are absolutely incapable of compassion or empathy except in their own self interest.
Remove the “here” from the end and you just have current republican policy
It’s wild that the “land of the free, home of the brave” let a bunch of incel basement dwelling grifter losers take over and tank the nation.
They fucked up that country so bad, him and his allies, I kinda agree with him (it disgusts me to say that). You don’t want to go down with that sinking ship. Get the fuck out.
Ben’s yarmulke game is on point like usual. Tiny, and the exact shade as his hair so that the anti-Semites in his target demographic won’t see it, but he’s still technically dressed the way his religion tells him to.
He could of course, choose not to court the types of people that turn out to be antisemitic, but you know, that would involve not making everything worse.
Why not, and im spitballing here, make America great?
America can only be great if all the poor people leave, duh.
Because DWS rigged the 2016 primaries
He wants them to die. Preferably after they enlist in the military.
How can the same folks who can’t afford to live afford to emigrate again?
Why is anyone giving this shitheel attention?
For context, he was speaking about living in expensive metropolitan cities, suggesting people move into less expensive places within the US, like the interior states. Ben says enough stupid shit to mock without isolating a quote from context to make it seem like he said/meant something else entirely.
Hell, there’s plenty to push back on with this quote and argument even understanding what he actually meant. “Just move somewhere cheaper”. Like that’s a much easier thing to say than do.
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If you’re unable to afford living where you are, then you’re probably going to struggle to afford the costs of moving. Then there’s the logistics of finding work and housing wherever you move to from another state. If you don’t have money to coast on for temporary housing, gas and food, you either need a company willing to hire you and provide you assistance to move or a personal connection in the area that’ll let you crash on their couch.
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Your field of work may just not exist in Guthrie, Oklahoma, or wherever. Leaving metro areas may mean changing careers. And those careers may not pay anywhere near as much either. Your costs may go down, but your wages might go with it.
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Leaving your home city means leaving all of your support structures. Your parents, siblings, friends, peers, etc. Some people may really depend on those. Or maybe someone depends on you specifically. Maybe your mom isn’t healthy? Maybe you have a sister dealing with addiction? Maybe they need your presence to ensure their care.
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There are political, legal, and health considerations in changing states. Do you have an active sex life and don’t want to be afraid that you’ll die from an unaborted ectopic pregnancy? Have a trans child? Are you not white? Then you may be more limited in suitable places to live outside of metropolitan city.
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This sidesteps the actual problem here, the why of it all. Why they can’t afford to live in the city they grew up in. Why is pay so bad? Why is housing so expensive? Why are groceries so expensive? But no, no. We can’t question or address those things. That’s just business baby. Free market capitalism at work. Let it ride, unregulated. Just move your ass out of the way to Hastings, Nebraska or some shit.
- It doesn’t scale. Where the problematic economic demographic is 50%+ percent of the pop and 70% live in cities no substantial portion effected could go live in all the Guthries in the nation. People are concentrated for reasons as old as civilization.
- It often wouldn’t help. Outside of shelter and taxes most goods don’t vary much or all by market and wages do.
One could find yourself spending an overlarge portion of your money on rent in an urban market move for cheaper rent and find the difference in wages makes up the difference in rent and now you need to afford everything else on less total wages.
- Cheaper markets have worse services and safety nets. Those who already rely on good medial benefits in urban centers in blue states would find little savings in moving into the boondocks in their own states and would lose more in health care alone than they gain in rent moving to bumfuck
Counter to your point, i did leave my home city that was too expensive for me to live in. I did nearly become homeless before landing a job but once i landed a job i was able to afford a small house in a few years, a nearly impossible goal for me in my home town.
I did have the benefit of my work skills are fairly universal and I could find some kind of employment nearly anywhere. If its an attainable goal to move, even if risky id say more often than not its worthwhile. It would be wise to do extensive research into average living costs and employment opportunities before moving.
I certainly wasn’t saying that it isn’t a good option for some/most. It definitely can be. I’m saying that “just move” misses a lot of nuance, hurdles, pitfalls, and priorities. Like you said, you nearly ended up homeless. Even though you made it in the end, you were lucky you didn’t get stuck in that situation too.
And that advice ignores the runaway problems that causes the affordability crisis in the first place, the same problems that are going to happen in places that are currently more affordable too. It is a short term solution for yourself to move. But when those problems catch up to you or your kids later, where are they going to go then? How long can the goal post keep moving before we stop it?
That could be part of your research process, by moving to city that is more walkable, pro-transit etc. Which i do know is easier said that done and often is more expensive.
We do need collective action to make it better but the affordability crisis is incredibly complex and must be tackled from several factors ranging from car dependancy, city zoning, rent control policies, and several other factors. Most of what i mentioned is on the type and supply side, we also need to consider wage growth and job positions available. It becomes a complex mess with no 1 factor to blame.
One of the most effective things you can do is vote locally for politicians that want beneficial change like density and transit, and not vote for the ones that do things like “even though this road is zoned for multi units and mid rises, im gonna fight every development that isn’t a SFH because it ruins the “character” of the neighborhood.”
So I will concede that he doesn’t give half a shit about 4, and thinks that people who have less rights in interior states shouldn’t have those rights anywhere. Furthermore I think he wants to separate the victims of his beliefs from ordinary working class people. Easier to hate a caricature of someone when they aren’t your neighbor.
But I’ll add 2 more:
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The cost of living is going up in many previously cheap places now too. Some it’s not, my first apartment is apparently cheaper now than when I lived there, but it’s not a place many people are going to want to live. The nearest cities which are historically budget friendly cities on the other hand are no longer budget friendly. And no the places that are cheap aren’t scenic bumfuck nowhere, it’s small towns that aren’t pretty and don’t have much to do, even outdoors stuff.
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Cheaper places are increasingly non functional in basic governance and public services. Public transit? Yeah good fucking luck even in the cities people think should be fine. When you get to really small bumfuck nowhere you better hope you don’t need medicine fast, Benny boy helped ensure that the hospitals in those places shut down by fighting against Medicare and Medicaid. The water? Contaminated. What are you getting for your taxes? A bad school, a censored library, asshole cops who are bored when you’re coming home from the city, and not much else.
Alternatively high cost of living areas are starting to engage in urbanist policies which will reduce the cost of living. Sure you won’t have a big yard in the city for cheap, but a reasonable sized apartment at a decent price or a reasonable priced house in the suburbs are possible.
Yeah there is also the consideration that many that live in metro areas get by without a car, and are less likely to own a car or even have a driver’s license. Without reliable or even existent public transport in their new home, where a car is a basic necessity, that is another massive financial hurdle and even a skill/paperwork hurdle to make living there viable.
Im a city girlie and havent had a license in 5 years. Just havent really needed it. Whenever im going out of the city im either going with friends to the woods, so we carpool, or flying to another city, so i just use their pubtrans/rideshare
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Alternative explanation: the “here” at the end is a misspeak and shouldn’t be there. He’s advocating killing poor and homeless people which is in line with current republican policy.
The right answer is to deconstruct the argument logically and educate, of course. But I think it has to be added that the hypocrisy is intentional and is not stupidity and to understand the argument behind the facade you have to understand us politics. Which is all about manipulating the voter turnout. Imigrants will, once naturalized, vote against republicans, so they are oppressed. Same with women, high education, and so on. These are all just traits that let you select people who’d vote against you.
For example abortion, women who would consider aborition will statistically vote against republicans, so republicans rally around that and demonize abortion to make the women move away or stay away. Or as you mentioned transgender people, yes they can’t move to republican states, that’s the point!
It’s always about supressing the people who statistically vote against you. In this case poor people vote against you, so you argue that poor people should leave the state or the country to dillute or strategically shift the voting opposition.
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that’s not how it works though.
No, but that’s how they think it goes to get into America. They think you just kind of walk in and sit down like a cafe.
i don’t know what to say because that’s fucking stupid.
Americans generally are pretty fucking stupid, so it tracks.
oh well…
I think he’s suggesting you die
And decrease the surplus population.
Then they should stop trying to fight abortions! We’reTRYING to shrink the unwanted populations, but we’re getting stuck with these unwanted kids.
I might take him up on that!
then where should we live, Ben? fucking Atlantis?!
Read this in Cody’s voice.
The Cody Showdy!
Ben Shapiro, man of the people, self-made millionaire, no help or handouts, no complaints, just pure husslin’ and bustlin’, hardest worker in America, Ben Shapiro knows the value of a dollar, he knows what it’s like to struggle, but he made it through, for he is Ben “Privilegeless” Shapiro.
