Morality is often subjective. In some places it’s immoral for women to show skin or drive a car.
OP literally just posted a hot dog water opinion and is going to anyone who disagrees and saying “Nuh uh”
Almost like im baiting in a place designed specifically for baiting.
Nuh uh
Not true
Soo, you are blatantly denying a fact?
No, you are
Morality is objectively decided by the society you are apart of, rendering it subjective. If you say im wrong then ill play the nihilism card and say it doesnt matter in the end. Ill always win. Checkmate.
You’re wrong!
Well it doesnt matter in the end anyway
Yes, but we’re also undervaluing the power of the people who voice their disapproval and the ripple effect it has on other people. What matters, in the end, is the public perception when it determines the type of treatment you get. Do you really want to feel uncomfortable around others regularly?
E: I know it’s a shitpost, but let me cook. I’m having thoughts. uwu
All morality is subjective
False, there are objectively evil and immoral actions.
Honestly this is a pretty big topic in philosophy. It could be argued that morality is a human construct and therefore must be subjective.
Some people believe that not going to church each week is amoral, but some atheists think organized religion is amoral - who is right?
You and I can agree that murder is immoral. Would that stance change if we were on the jury for a murder trial and, if found guilty, the offender would be sentenced to death? If that doesn’t make us murderers, what makes the death penalty an appropriate and moral punishment?
Simply replying “false” indicates little to no thought on the subject or its nuance, and gives off strong “I’m 13 and this is deep” vibes
Reasonable person is a consistently used terminology in law. That is because objectivity can be achieved in certain circumstances. Say someone rapes, murders and necrophiles a person of any age. That is objectively an evil action in which any reasonable person would condem the perpetrator.
The law is meant to be fair (which is a separate can of worms, but the goal is fairness). It is not meant to be moral, though it often follows what people generally consider to be moral, like don’t rape or murder people.
And, honestly, using the “reasonable person” argument here goes against your point - it indicates that people with different morals exist, and therefore morality must be subjective.
Gimme a minute I have to go to sleep. But, you’re obviously wrong.
Cool, sounds legit
Who decides what a reasonable person is? Well a reasonable person, obviously.
The word you’re looking for is intersubjective
False
Then you’re using a private definition of the word objective that you can’t assume people will buy into
Prove it.
Rape in any form, murder of an innocent, intentional torture of an organism strictly to give the torturers gratification and jay walking. All good examples of objectively morally evil actions.
Evil is itself a subjective term. It is not possible for anything to be objectively evil, even if every person who has ever lived agrees - which they definitely don’t. To be “objective” it must be measurable, supported by facts; “good” and “evil” are not.
Thats not true
Homosexuality used to be objectively immoral and to some folks it still is. Morality is an arbitration based on our perceptions of harm, and changes over time. Jaywalking used to be the norm, but a rule was made against it to prevent harm as the world adapted to motor vehicles. The Nazi believed themselves to be morally correct in their actions. If morality is objective, then the threats to a healthy society would always be clear and accurate. Maybe. What do you think? I’m interested to know.
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Isn’t morality intersubjective?
No
It’s morality itself that has the weight, not any particular moral.
At first I was gonna say, maybe morality isn’t subjective. Maybe its just our perception of morality that is, and that as an intelligence constrained by our meat, the subjectivity is just a naturally occuring conceptual filter construct that creates the illusion of subjectivity.
Then I realized, I should have just said “yeah”.
With apologies to Mitch Hedberg.
That’s why I don’t argue on moral grounds unless I can guarantee shared morals
Agreed. STFU Lisa
