Harm reduction and rehab centers where they can use in a safe environment is how you really help people addicted to drugs. Instead of locking them in a cage and pretending they don’t exist.
Trying to combat drug addiction through policing has been proven ineffective time and time again. You may want to rethink that one.
Came to say this! Drug addicts need help, not jail. Sure, if they commit a crime police should be involved, but it’s not going to cure their addiction!
Idk. I’m a public bus driver, am in pretty consistent contact with drug users. Not to mention living in amongst them in the poorer areas of tow. I’m not saying we should arrest them and give them lengthy sentences, but just leaving them on the street ain’t working out.
I think a mandatory “time out” in a facility is in order. At least long enough to work the drugs out of their system. Maybe then they can try for a better way with a little clearer head.
But some days it feels like I’m living in a post apocalypse mad Max type place. It’s bullshit that they’re allowed to just trash anyplace they are. There’s what’s best for them, and there’s what’s best for the rest of us. There’s gotta be something done.
Edit: downvote me all you want, just leaving the problem to fester as we are now is neither kind nor progressive
Doing drugs is a crime tho.
This guy reminds teachers they forgot to give out homework…
I mean if you want to get specific what I really want is to remind police that doing drugs is illegal and they should focus on busting those people…instead of kids having fun on scooters
Kids having fun on scooters doing illegal things.
One is a felony the other a misdemeanor
Busting drug addicts will do ZERO to help the drug and crime problems. Even law enforcers will tell you that.
Those problems are so much more complex, and require fundamental reforms in social policies, mental healthcare, education, youth programmes, city planning etc. And then there’s the issue of dealing with the gangs, smugglers and foreign organized syndicates bringing the stuff into the country.
Kids driving recklessly on scooters (which are often modified) are:
A) A danger to themselves
B) A danger to pedestrians they could crash into
C) A serious danger to cars that swerve to avoid them when they go out on the main road.
So was helping slaves and Jewish people. Your point?
So is what the kids are doing. So…?
If you arrest the users they’ll give up the dealers
That’s policing 101
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That widely known to not work that way.
Ok bootlicker
I mean, they shouldn’t be going after drug addicts either.
You get people off drugs by building a society where people aren’t being oppressed and used as slaves. Not by putting them in jail and making their life worse.
Kids on the other hand aren’t fully mature and don’t realize that ‘just’ 30mph on a scooter can lead to a deadly crash pretty easily
Is that how Singapore got rid of their drug problems?
There are no drugs in bar sing se obviously.
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OP, did a cop give you a ticket for riding a scooter?
No they gave a 12 yr old a ticket… Well actually hey gave it to his father
Well, sorry they gave your dad a ticket
Love the username.
We are Alpharius
So they did something good for once: traffic education.
Why would drug addicts give up their dealers? For one, they still need someone to distribute them drugs. Secondly snitching out dealers is pretty dangerous. Thirdly, why? What incentive does an addict have? Not to go to prison? That is often a better choice than staying on the streets. In prison at least you have a place to sleep, it’s warm and you get food three times a day. I don’t know the prison conditions in Canada. But where I live, I’d a hundred percent rather go to prison than stay on the street.
What if it was life in prison?
Places like Singapore don’t have drug problems because they deal with it like it should be
Freedom will always lead to more crime. If we want freedom, we will have to accept crime.
Also just because something is not visible, it does not mean it’s not there. China for example appears to have no homelessness, but that is simply untrue. It has a major problem, but makes sure the majority of people and tourists don’t get to see it. Singapur may not in fact have a drug problem, but if that is due to the radical approach of criminilisation or due to broad wealth of most inhabitants cannot be seen from outside.
Also all studies show that harsh punishments are actually detrimental to battling criminal behaviour.
Except for Singapore
I hate the police like everybody elese, but why huntig addicts? They do nothing except to themself… But a 12yo on a scooter is mostly dangerous.
Addicts will steal your shit to pay for their drugs
Why would they give 12y old tickets? Don’t they have any newer ones?
Well if they would fix traffic infrastructure to support bicycles and other alternative transports they would have less of a problem with this.
in this case the police are correct
Counterpoint: parents should be given tickets for endangering their child’s lives by giving them something that can cause death or greivous injury - calling it a “toy” that goes 30+ mph ridden on public roads with no training, license, or obeying traffic signs and signals.
One of these days it’s going to be a lawmakers kid that is going to get turned into a meat crayon. Then we might just get some reasonable legislation. I hate that it pretty much has to come down to many children dying for meaningful change to take place.
USA reports 11 deaths under 16 and Canada 10
So 21 deaths in what 15 or 20 years these have been around
Probably around 1 per year
How many kids have been killed by drug users or drug dealers… probably more than 1 per Year
USA alone has so many drug related shootings they probably can’t even reliably track how many kids get shot
Drug consumption should never be criminalized. And I say this as someone who doesn’t even drink alcohol.
