Donald Trump made clear that his personal grudge with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky hasn’t abated during a phone interview with NBC News.

Speaking with Meet the Press anchor Kristen Welker on Saturday, the president knocked Zelensky for offering assistance to the U.S. and Middle Eastern countries, the latter of which the Ukrainian president said on Friday were seeking his aid in sharing drone detection technology.

The “last person we need help from is Zelensky,” Trump told Welker.

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    Ukraine is winning because they found cheaper drone defenses than drones…

    Were burning thru our sophisticated interceptors because we’re wasting them on drones 1/100th the prices.

    Iran just has to keep pumping out the same drones they’ve been sending to Russia.

    Like, Ukraine is literally the one government that knows how to win this kind of war.

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      The only person who knows how to do anything in the US is Donald Trump, if anyone has the audacity to know better than him they will be demoted, fired or abducted by ICE.

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      Haaaaaaang on.

      Are you saykng that Iran has been supplying Russia with drones, and now they’ll be keeping them to use against the USA, for the explicit purpose of being destroyed?

      So, wouldn’t this mean Russia loses their supply? So wouldn’t that mean it’s actually in Zelenskyys best interest to NOT help the USA?

      If USA ends their war quickly, Iran starts supplying Russia again with drones. But until that happens, wouldn’t Ukraine have an easier time in their own war?

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        Yes, Russia will lose a part of their supply.

        They will also gain a lot of money they can use to buy things from other places.

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        This was my first take too, but I think that was mostly true in the first years when the rot in the russian military was more prevalent. They have been steadily cleaning up and ramping up production across their MIC and they also have local Shahed production now set up by Iranian engineers afaik.

        That means that the main limits on Russias ability to get drones is now primarily financial, rather than production volume. So while they lost some of their effective production, they have made so much money out of this, that even if it ends today, their biggest challenge, their economy, is hugely improved. If it continues, they will be able to afford even more production.

        With the effectiveness of the Shaheds, I wouldn’t be surprised if China is also pumping them out and Russia can buy them there. If NATO dumped a bunch of money into reverse engineering and setting up production, Iranian allies sure as hell should have.

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    Trump treated Zelensky like a wet rag when he invited him to the whitehouse and Zelensky still willing to offer his first hand knowledge and experience of drone warfare.

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      That’s what being the bigger man truly means. In more ways that one.

      Zelensky is the bigger man in this case. Again, in more ways than one.

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        Well, also, strategically any pain for Iran is good for Ukraine, since Iran supplies Russia.

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      It’s really telling how everyone went from “this is an illegal war and it needs to end” to “zelenski is so based for wanting to help America with with the war”

      This obsession American liberals have with zelenski where he seemingly can’t do wrong is so weird. He does a lot wrong, this is one the wrongs. He’s offering to help extend the war and make it significantly more deadly.

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      Trump probably reads Zelensky’s offer as Zelensky gloating or belittling him. If I were Zelensky I would be exploiting the situation to the max, by constantly highlighting how helpless and incompetent the Americans are in the face of Iranian drones and how awesome the Ukrainian fighting force actually is.

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    Cucked little bitch. Putin’s dick is so far down his throat that he’s able to fuck his breakfast Big Mac.

    I still cannot believe that this pube-flecked chunk of human excrement won a second term. It’s still genuinely sickening to me, like my stomach really feels like I’m perpetually tipping over the apogee of a rollercoaster when I remember what happened. His winning the first term was at least comprehensible, but I’m still punchdrunk from the shock of it all, even after all this time. And I’m not even from the US! I can’t imagine what it feels like for the people who have to live there, especially those who aren’t cis-white-hetero-males.

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      Anyone who has spent any time in the US shouldn’t be surprised by him winning. It was and is still shockingly frustrating and disappointing, but unfortunately that’s only because it’s an emotionally difficult pill to swallow how awful so much of it is.

      Sort of how no one is surprised when Israel bomb indiscriminately, the US invades/coups/bombs another country, Saudi executes a bunch of people, Russia is excessively brutal, massacres in African conflicts if not genocides and ethnic cleansing that most of the world ignores.

      No matter how predictable, it is always shockingly horrifying, but not surprising.

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    Unbelievable…Trump’s would rather save his ego than let Ukraine help save American lives.

    My brother in-law actually has a diagnosed personality disorder and the way Trump behaves, especially while under duress, is identical to how my brother in-law would react.

    If Trump indeed suffers from a personality disorder, which I am convinced is the case, then he is literally incapable of backing down.

    This is an absolute nightmare scenario for the US. Trump won’t stop until he is forced to stop. We will see Trump make even more crucial mistakes and see him try and escalate this as far as he possible can.

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      Is it still considered a disorder when it is someone’s whole personality? If you removed the perpetual rage, the extreme narcissism and the bullying I think you would only find an orange stain on the floor where Trump was.

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        Personality disorders are controversial in psychology. But yes they are considered legitimate.

        Patterns of specific maladaptive traits and behaviors that are consistent across the lifespan.

        Personality disorder types are specific clusters of symptoms/traits/behaviors.

        I’m personally on the fence if personalities can be categorized very much. People are very unique in their traits and levels of traits.

        Except for people with high narcissism and dark triad traits (anti-social traits like manipulation , lack of empathy, vindictiveness, impulsivity).

        These are just ruthless egotistical people who all behave the same. Just incredibly selfish and cruel.

        Estimated to be ~5% of them in the general population with some professions having very high instances. Like lawyers and CEOs.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

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      There is a phenomenon called “self handicapping”. And everyone does it a little at least a few times but it’s typically a behavior that’s considered poor.

      Here is an example of how it works.

      Let’s say you have a big exam tomorrow. And you fucked around , didn’t study. You knew about it weeks ago. You know you are going to fail it. But. Instead of spending that last evening cramming as much as possible to make up for procrastinating to maybe have a small chance of passing it, you decide to go to a bar and get shit faced.

      The next day you don’t even show up to class.

      You blame failing the class on the alcohol. Instead of your inability to prioritize your education or your own intelligence.

      It was the alcohol. Not your own ability to pass. You probably would have aced it actually. If you hadn’t been hungover.

      So this is a way to save face and preserve a sense of self superiority.

      People who are narcissistic do this almost constantly. They never fail. No , not them. It’s always some external cause that their plans didn’t work.

      They intentionally set up multiple barriers so that they can always fall back on those.

      Trump does the same,

      For instance. Tarriffs. He can claim he has a plan to fix the economy with tarriffs but Congress won’t let him. So we won’t ever know how great of a plan it was. It totally would have worked. It just needed a little more time.

      But. often the obstacle isn’t doing its job.

      Example. Trump starts war. It’s going badly. He won’t pull out until Congress forces him. Then he can say "we were winning. My plan was great they just wouldn’t let me see it through.

      He wants Congress to stop it. He has wanted Congress and the supreme Court to stop most of the b.s. So he can claim they were good plans but someone else fucked it up.

      He did this all through his first term too. It’s how people like him function.

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    This makes complete sense to me. If you think you are the most powerful man in the world, controlling the worlds biggest military, then an offer to help from a much smaller country who has been asking for your help for years, is going to be seen as an insult. It’s basically just his fragile ego, refusing to admit that the country with the most modern combat experience against IRANIAN drones is going to be of any help.

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        I have no doubt they happened as random hand gestures, but they were not rock paper scissoring. The only thing that looks exactly like an intentional rock-paper-scissor would be the left picture, but just indicating “two” could look like that.

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          as random hand gestures

          I know. I just wanted to ask if it was actual random gestures that they made instead of doctored.

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    That relationship exploded early last year, when the president and Vice President JD Vance appeared to engineer a confrontation with the Ukrainian leader at the White House. The two blamed him for gambling with “World War Three” as the conversation devolved into a shouting match in front of the cameras that stunned reporters in the room.

    https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-meeting-zelensky-ukraine-vance-b2706864.html

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      As they launch into random wars with several middle eastern nations and beyond… Le sigh.

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    “Personal grudge”? Trump is a Russian asset. He doesn’t give a fuck about Ukraine.

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    Why would a Russian asset successfully weakening our ties with other countries, destroying our economy, and exposing our troops to unnecessary harm… want something that works?

    He and his maggot faithful are speed running losing as if it were their explicit purpose.

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    Of course, that fat bastard in the Oval Office being the running dog for the Kremlin.

    I’m sure it’s an open secret in Ukraine.

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    He’s such an ungracious pile of garbage to the point where he’s ok with our allies and citizens dying.

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    President Zelensky should send Krasnov the heavily redacted version of Ukraine’s defense program. The people with common sense already know the orange turd will send the classified documents straight to fucking Moscow.