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    The worst exemple you could choose is wharamer 40k. Like the fucking universe where humanity has to fight to survive. And fight more horrible things than even exist in ours.

    Edit for all the moron than think politics are an integral part of wharamer juste replace wharamer with full metal jacket and how it was meant to show war ks horrible and the audience got the message thebmilitarybis cool.

    The point of wharamer is to sell figurine that look cool and have a cool background. U dumb and tiresome.

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      Nah the entire point of the 40k is a satire of fascism and all the horrors it brings. Humanity is fighting to survive because everyone else in the universe quite rightly hates them for their 10,000 year campaign of conquest and genocide. Even the more horrible things than humanity like chaos are heavily bolstered and fed by the actions of the imperium. Every problem humanity faces in the 40k universe(except the orks I guess) is of their own doing.

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        I’m not with buddy. More here to talk about the lore of W.H.

        Didn’t humanity try to be peaceful at first, but then the other species used our kindness as a way to take advantage of us?

        Again, I’m not getting into the political side of it, just the lore.

        (Why am I being downvoted, damn, I get what warhammer is about. I was just wanting to ask lore :( )

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          Lore wise humanity was more chill in the dark age of technology and earlier there was a lot a lot of back and forth though a lot that lore is deliberately very vague and there certainly might be parts of it I don’t know as it’s been a couple of years since my last 40k lore hyperfixation. For the 10,000 years or so the setting primarily covers humanity is full on murder mode from the moment the emperor elects to reveal himself to humanity, conquer terra and engage in the campaign of galactic conquest.

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            Ah I gotcha. I don’t get a lot of time to read nowadays, but what I have gotten from YouTube channels lately has been cool to learn about.

            Humans are definitely not the good guys. But I don’t think anyone really is in that world. Tau maybe and Orks are just Orks. Can’t fault a bird for flying and fish for swimming, won’t hate a Ork for Waaaggghing.

            The dark age is def a section I wanna know more about. It’s when A.I turned against right?

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              Tau very much aren’t good guys with their rigid caste system and the “join us ‘peacefully’ and definetly of your own volition or by force” expansionism. Orks are an unrelenting pack of bastard mushrooms to everyone all the time.

              Yeah the war against the men of iron and the eventual outlawing of AI oingst humanity as a result is part of the DAOT and it’s downfall.

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                Yea, when you put it that way. Was thinking more of the they’re the youngest. But then I think about the krok(?) Who they send in to eat the enemy. As well as if I remember they use brainwashing, don’t they.

                Honestly, it sounds like at the end of the day, if you are born human in that world, just pray you can live to see tomorrow.

                Edit: you could also say the Orks are a bad shroom trip. ba dum tsh

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        yeah except the ork, the insect that just wanna propage indefinetly like a cancer and the warp ppl that are just under control of an entity that want the end of mankind. who the fuck in that universe is like your war was really mean we gonna make a never ending war in revenge ?

        how the fuck u saw 40k and think fsatire of facism ???

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          how the fuck u saw 40k and think fsatire of facism ???

          Because thats how it started? The Imperium is not a good place to live. It is the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable, per every 40k book ever. It is a setting with zero “good” factions.

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            Yeah so can u imagine any other type of regime for this hellscape universe ? Do u think the settings was build to criticize political regime ??? How the fuck can you write it s a satire of facism ??? It s not and isn’t even the point of the IP and all the derivative that came from it Wtf

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              Yes that is exactly what it was done to do. Political satire was a central component to GWs early development of it’s properties(shouts out to the margaret thatcher banner) and it has remained part of it in varying degrees over the decades. You’re not supposed to like the imperium or any faction within 40k, it’s not a setting to be celebrated. It’s meant to be showing things at their absolute worst including the hyper racist empire that represents humanity.

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                Omfg. The hyper racist empire Lmao Yeah yeah everything is political and once again your identifying yourself with the bugs

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                  How could you possibly talk about fascism, a political system, without being political

                  My god man. We’re not making this shit up, this is literally the story behind 40k, per the people who wrote it.

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                  Bro the imperium has a religious inquisition that goes around executing people for religious heresy and thought crime. Space marines are brainwashed, drugged up child soldiers and the mechanicus are so religiously conservative they’re essentialy the amish with laser rifles.

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      Edit for all the moron than think politics are an integral part of wharamer juste replace wharamer with full metal jacket and how it was meant to show war ks horrible and the audience got the message thebmilitarybis cool.

      I always love the irony of someone being called stupid in a borderline illiterate response.

      Especially when you’re completely uninformed about the history of “wharamer”

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                I voted to minimize genocide vs you staying home and let the genocide in chief win.

                I don’t give a fuck what you have to say, strategic voting could have saved lives, but your poor widdle ego doesn’t want to hear that.

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                All the post is about is “fascism = bad”, as in general as it gets basically. You’re the only one bringing specifically US politics out of nowhere; which gives a strong impression that you feel called out for some reason and thus are inclined to question your views on whether “fascism = bad” unrelated to US politics specifically exactly because how unrelated it being brought up was originally.

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                  Check out godric’s post history and maybe it’ll help you understand my comments. Dude is a fierce democrat defender and therefore genocide supporter.