Yeah, and all he had to do to maintain that image was keep his mouth shut and let the pr people talk for him, but no that wasn’t good enough for his ego.
I wonder what this timeline would be like if he had accepted that his submarine idea was naive despite the good intentions and just paid to have a nice setup with comfortable tents and catered food for the divers and kids as they got out of the cave (plus their families). Instead of attacking the guy and showing the world who he was, kicking off a cycle of him lashing out at his falling popularity, resulting in it falling even more, then more lashing out, etc.
Even if he was like that the whole time, he might have kept his mask on instead of leaning into it, probably would have never made that offer for Twitter, might have tried to appear neutral instead of joining Trump’s campaign.
Though hard to say because the self-driving bs and cybertruck would have still happened and might have kicked off that cycle anyways.
Elon is very skilled. Some of his great skills, just off the top of my head; riding the shit out of every coat tail, failing upwards, shooting himself in his bulletproof foot, looking like a complete dweeb/asshat to most of the world almost as much as the potus, and so much more! He’s truly remarkable… -ly foolish.
one of the most retroactively embarrassing moments in my life is in like 2015 or '16 I was doing some dumb team-building thing for some school-adjacent activity, and the task was to create a “new Mount Rushmore,” basically as a group nominate four people who are doing good and important work in the world. I suggested musk. at the time most people there hadn’t heard of him, so I gave a little spiel about how he was the “founder” (which I thought was true at the time) of PayPal, Tesla (which people were just becoming aware of), and SpaceX. every time I remember it I cringe and hope nobody else does. although most other people in the group suggested Beyonce as someone doing “important work for humanity” so idk if they have much of a leg to stand on to criticize my choice
It’s fine. He had potential, and he really did move fast and break things to make Tesla what it was. I don’t think EVs would be where they are today without him.
The pedophile thing really was the turning point. It was possible to see before then, but it wasn’t even the event itself that did it. He just changed fast around that time period. Whether his views changed or he just started revealing and acting on them much more is debatable.
He ditched his handlers and PR team. He never had potential. He had a team covering up what a meddling moronic piece of shit he is. Thing is, he’s also a fat piggy bank.
His money had gotten things done because smarter people around him have been able to use it to advance tech from time to time, but he always takes credit in some way.
He has done nothing but throw around his daddy’s money.
I read his biography long ago. While it didn’t pull punches, even then he seemed really promising and I left it with a good feeling, just flawed character traitsany people have. It was easy to believe those things true until negative sentiment was revealed and it clicked on what he must have been like during those times.
Back in the day I’ve listened to him at some panel gathering, about AI. And heard nothing that wasn’t already said by sci-fi writers and tech thinkers. So his ‘genius’ anyways eluded me, while him being the moneybag raised suspicions.
Hearing that he was in PayPal immediately put everything in place, because that company was known for decades for freezing people’s accounts on random pretext and keeping the money.
A really amazing sixth grade math teacher I worked with had a life-size poster of Elon Musk taped to the back of her door 10 years ago. Not so much these days…
I remember when I first heard about him, knew nothing about him. Just some guy who owned Tesla who was open-sourcing some EV tech. That sounded great!
That’s about when it all fell apart. I learned who he was. Fired for incompetence. Fumbles basic questions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE_xHVYwHw8 tldr, guy asks about maglev and airbearings and Elon stumbles around a while to say… “wheels” 🤦♂️). He’s not now, nor has he ever been a genius. I genuinely don’t think he’s even smart by any standard. I think he’s just rich and that’s it. I remember watching videos about Hyperloop, and the engineering behind it was painfully obvious how unsafe it was going to be, and somewhere between impossible and impractical to build/maintain. Like, that idea only works on paper, or in Sci-Fi. The test track they built rusted out and was poorly secured. And it rusted out largely, because the engineers didn’t account for the water in the cement or something…
Or the Boring company. It could have been the best company if it were just called the Boring company but sold cool shit, like the flamethrower. I get the real reason behind it was to stop some public transit project, blah blah, I know, I get it, I’ve seen and heard it a million times. But the proposed idea he gave, the fact anyone looked at it, at him and was like “Yeah, this seem even remotely possible and definitely not a bat-shit crazy idea” astounds me. At best, it was a worse version of every single subway system ever invented anywhere on earth. At worse, a giant death trap machine that would make the Final Destination movies look tame.
I’ve riden on many planes, trains, and automobiles. And the only time I’ve ever felt really unsafe was in a Tesla. Poorly built, poorly designed. Yet people keep buying them. You have mechanics saying their a POS, you have tech folk saying it’s a POS, you have the news showing you it’s a POS. I don’t understand. Hell, he’s made so many claims that just haven’t happened. Vehicles that he said were coming out, “next year”…
Explaining Elon to people, it’s like explaining why “Solar freaking roadways” doesn’t work and is a stupid fucking idea.
Oh man I miss the time when I thought this man was actually gonna be like the next Tony Stark.
If you read his reddit AmA he sounded like a pretty cool dude who wanted to advance science.
Yeah, and all he had to do to maintain that image was keep his mouth shut and let the pr people talk for him, but no that wasn’t good enough for his ego.
I wonder what this timeline would be like if he had accepted that his submarine idea was naive despite the good intentions and just paid to have a nice setup with comfortable tents and catered food for the divers and kids as they got out of the cave (plus their families). Instead of attacking the guy and showing the world who he was, kicking off a cycle of him lashing out at his falling popularity, resulting in it falling even more, then more lashing out, etc.
Even if he was like that the whole time, he might have kept his mask on instead of leaning into it, probably would have never made that offer for Twitter, might have tried to appear neutral instead of joining Trump’s campaign.
Though hard to say because the self-driving bs and cybertruck would have still happened and might have kicked off that cycle anyways.
Oh i had almost forgotten the submarine lash out, but you are right that it all started there more or less.
What a downward spiral.
He probably thought, “I could do their job!” and fired them to save money.
I think of him more like the next John McAfee.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but McAfee must have been at least somewhat skilled in the past, no? That doesn’t sound much like Musk.
I guess there is one way he could become the next McAfee…
Elon is very skilled. Some of his great skills, just off the top of my head; riding the shit out of every coat tail, failing upwards, shooting himself in his bulletproof foot, looking like a complete dweeb/asshat to most of the world almost as much as the potus, and so much more! He’s truly remarkable… -ly foolish.
one of the most retroactively embarrassing moments in my life is in like 2015 or '16 I was doing some dumb team-building thing for some school-adjacent activity, and the task was to create a “new Mount Rushmore,” basically as a group nominate four people who are doing good and important work in the world. I suggested musk. at the time most people there hadn’t heard of him, so I gave a little spiel about how he was the “founder” (which I thought was true at the time) of PayPal, Tesla (which people were just becoming aware of), and SpaceX. every time I remember it I cringe and hope nobody else does. although most other people in the group suggested Beyonce as someone doing “important work for humanity” so idk if they have much of a leg to stand on to criticize my choice
It’s fine. He had potential, and he really did move fast and break things to make Tesla what it was. I don’t think EVs would be where they are today without him.
The pedophile thing really was the turning point. It was possible to see before then, but it wasn’t even the event itself that did it. He just changed fast around that time period. Whether his views changed or he just started revealing and acting on them much more is debatable.
He ditched his handlers and PR team. He never had potential. He had a team covering up what a meddling moronic piece of shit he is. Thing is, he’s also a fat piggy bank.
His money had gotten things done because smarter people around him have been able to use it to advance tech from time to time, but he always takes credit in some way.
He has done nothing but throw around his daddy’s money.
That’s it.
Period.
He didn’t “become shitty”.
He threw away the people covering it up.
I read his biography long ago. While it didn’t pull punches, even then he seemed really promising and I left it with a good feeling, just flawed character traitsany people have. It was easy to believe those things true until negative sentiment was revealed and it clicked on what he must have been like during those times.
Back in the day I’ve listened to him at some panel gathering, about AI. And heard nothing that wasn’t already said by sci-fi writers and tech thinkers. So his ‘genius’ anyways eluded me, while him being the moneybag raised suspicions.
Hearing that he was in PayPal immediately put everything in place, because that company was known for decades for freezing people’s accounts on random pretext and keeping the money.
A really amazing sixth grade math teacher I worked with had a life-size poster of Elon Musk taped to the back of her door 10 years ago. Not so much these days…
I remember when I first heard about him, knew nothing about him. Just some guy who owned Tesla who was open-sourcing some EV tech. That sounded great!
That’s about when it all fell apart. I learned who he was. Fired for incompetence. Fumbles basic questions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE_xHVYwHw8 tldr, guy asks about maglev and airbearings and Elon stumbles around a while to say… “wheels” 🤦♂️). He’s not now, nor has he ever been a genius. I genuinely don’t think he’s even smart by any standard. I think he’s just rich and that’s it. I remember watching videos about Hyperloop, and the engineering behind it was painfully obvious how unsafe it was going to be, and somewhere between impossible and impractical to build/maintain. Like, that idea only works on paper, or in Sci-Fi. The test track they built rusted out and was poorly secured. And it rusted out largely, because the engineers didn’t account for the water in the cement or something…
Or the Boring company. It could have been the best company if it were just called the Boring company but sold cool shit, like the flamethrower. I get the real reason behind it was to stop some public transit project, blah blah, I know, I get it, I’ve seen and heard it a million times. But the proposed idea he gave, the fact anyone looked at it, at him and was like “Yeah, this seem even remotely possible and definitely not a bat-shit crazy idea” astounds me. At best, it was a worse version of every single subway system ever invented anywhere on earth. At worse, a giant death trap machine that would make the Final Destination movies look tame.
I’ve riden on many planes, trains, and automobiles. And the only time I’ve ever felt really unsafe was in a Tesla. Poorly built, poorly designed. Yet people keep buying them. You have mechanics saying their a POS, you have tech folk saying it’s a POS, you have the news showing you it’s a POS. I don’t understand. Hell, he’s made so many claims that just haven’t happened. Vehicles that he said were coming out, “next year”…
Explaining Elon to people, it’s like explaining why “Solar freaking roadways” doesn’t work and is a stupid fucking idea.