• jjpamsterdam@feddit.org
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    It’s so frustrating that we are living through an active genocide (again) and doing absolutely nothing (again). In my youth, when there wasn’t yet a 24 hour news cycle and I learned about the genocide in Rwanda as a teenager, it was my naive belief at the time that a lack of knowledge was the main reason for the general indifference in “the West”. A year later the genocide in Bosnia, especially the massacre at Srebrenica, was headline news in my home country of the Netherlands and yet people seemed to collectively just shrug that off just as quickly as it happened. Now, many years later, I’ve become much more cynical. If you want people to care about unjustified murder you should either make sure to have your country located really really close to “the West”, but even that is just of limited use to Ukraine, or make sure that the killing happens to take place at the hands of mostly Jewish people, although most Palestinians can attest to the fact that while media attention is good, action is still lacking.

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      Keep in mind you’re on a site where a solid number of users might downplay or relativise Srebrenica.

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        That’s a very sad point, if true. I’m old enough to remember coverage of that event on the evening news. How can a clear and obvious case of ethnic cleansing be downplayed?

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          People claim it was blown out of proportion (with inflated numbers) or that it was presented selectively (without mentioning Bosniak and Croatian atrocities). This is a relatively frequent idea among American leftists, at least the more radical circles which are common on Lemmy.

          Similar to Ukraine, tbh. Basically, nothing has to be “clear and obvious” if you don’t want it to be.

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    Fuck the sponsors of this genocide which is the United Arab Emirates (UAE) that support the so called ‘Rapid Support Forces’, and fuck the supporters of UAE, Germany. UAE is making shitloads of money from this bestiality as they provide the (partly German) weaponry and get paid in Sudanese blood-gold. Germany is supporting UAE for nodding to everything Israel does.

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    Americans have no power we can’t even get healthcare, family leave, affordable college, food assistance or affordable housing and they’re literally building for profit concentration camps everywhere. Our future is medical bankruptcy, homelessness, mass surveillance, “terrorist watch lists” and a core civic slave labor camps

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    okay so let me get this straight. it’s up to me to sort out the fascism in my home country, stop the genocide in sudan, stop the genocide in gaza, stop the genocide in ukraine, stop the genocide in china, would you also like a pony sir? what ever happened to a people’s responsibility of self determination that y’all keep throwing in my face whenever i mention that the orange fuckface has become an international problem and it’s time to start employing economic sanctions to try reining in the united states? y’all stop your own genocides.

    • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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      Don’t be late on your mortgage, tuition for any children, and taxes.

      And if you keep your phone longer than 6 months you’re a loser.

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      70% of the world pisses and moans when america plays world police. 70% of the world pisses and moans when america doesn’t play world police.

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        Its because, much like the real police, they aren’t doing beneficial constructive things. If, they for example stepped in to stop what russia is doing to Ukraine most people would be happy, if they stepped in to stop what israel is doing, most people would be happy, if they stepped in to stop what is happening in Sudan most people would be happy instead they bombed children in Tehran.

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          Even if most real people would be happy, you can bet Israel, Russia, and the RSF + allies would astroturf the hell out of a “How dare America, evil world police, expansionist imperialism” campaign. And, just like how much of America is stupid, many people globally will believe it. It has happened before.

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    The article is not wrong. But the reality is, we’ve tried to help places like a Sudan a lot over the decades. I’d say we helped TOO MUCH.

    We sent food aid which made them dependent on us. It didn’t incentivise them to fix their issues, it just made them reliant on outside help. Meanwhile, the population skyrocketed. There’s more mouths to feed, more famine, more conflict.

    At some point, a country needs to fix whatever’s broken. And it won’t be pretty; it never is. But I don’t think interfering in an internal conflict like this will do any good to anyone. Can we as the west even reasonably figure out who the ‘good guys’ and ‘bad guys’ are in this conflict? Is there even a good or bad side to begin with?

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      I mostly agree. I think people got put off when it turns out most donations to African countries in turmoil are embezzled.

      However, there is a selective activism and double standard when Palestine gets more attention than Sudan, and the Israel-Palestinian conflict had been going on for as long as the conflict in Sudan and its neighbouring countries.

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        TBF, seeing as Israel is basically an appendix of the US, it could in theory be controlled via the US. As others here pointed out, no such mechanism in Sudan.

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      The fighting drew in foreign weapons and money. Outside powers jockeyed to back a victor, secure a foothold in Sudan, and profit from its natural wealth. The country matters globally not just because of its size but because it sits on the Red Sea, a major trade route, and holds immense reserves of gold, oil, and agricultural land.

      Youre definition of help needs work

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    Yea unfortunately if America’s enemies can’t use the genocide to split the american population, it’s not getting shared on Facebook. It takes a lot of paid posting to get people worked up about genocide. Why these rabid leftists can’t get excited about an African genocide idk, but mostly because no jews or America I think! harder to blame America for desertification and European colonialism.

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        Somewhere on the Main page right now someone’s stills screaming about Genocide Joe! Like you are brainwashed heathens. Lend me those down votes they can’t amount to the death you’ve caused by your “activism”. If you gave a fuck about an African genocide you’d be allowing refugees to come in. You people don’t give a fuck about anything but internet up-doots and virtue signaling. America always took in African refugees during these times. I got large populations down the road. Great people. Now they are doomed to die and suffer because Genocide Joe am I rite gang?

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            Ya to be honest, there’s a damn genocide in Sudan and my country cut food aid for not fucking reason and started kicking out refugees instead of accepting them. It makes the suffering in my own community seem inconsequential. It’s probably hard to conceive if you’re incapable of nuance.

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        Like I don’t recall the nazi’s having a group of people that ran around trying to defend the Jews while also making their lives infinitely worse. You guys made yourself a special place in genocide history. I’m not letting that shit go. Like I’ve never seen a group of people come together to support a cause and fuck it up so bad. It’s truly worth a chapter in the old history books… if they have those in 10 years.

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          Again talking out your ass. You have no idea who I am or what I stand for. The special place in genocide history is for those enabling the genocide, democrats, republicans, the Israelis, the Russians, some Sudanese. Get off your high horse.

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        Na look how mad y’all are. I gotta troll you ever chance I get because you fucked my american empire to death with your virtue signaling and now Palestine is smoldering and when its done burning it will be a nice TRUMP resort.

        Morons.

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          Imagine talking out your ass so much, you literally have no idea about who I am, or where I live. Talk about moronic.