• ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    IMHO China is a more capitalist country than the USA. 12h workdays 6 days a week (996), with overtime 16h, no labour rights, no representation, only the party gets that. Flooding the markets with goods sold at a loss, to drive the other countries’ industry out of business. The taxpayer subsideses the loss. And once China is the monopoly, they can charge what they want.

    IMO these MAGA cunts should wet themselves at the sight of China. After all, China is more capitalist than the USA, lol.

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      14 days ago

      IMHO China is a more capitalist country than the USA. 12h workdays 6 days a week

      Communism doesn’t mean that everybody can slack off. If people don’t work enough it’s difficult for them to catch up with Capitalism, like USSR and Eastern Europe have shown.

      All that work has paid off for China. Unlike any other country they have a shot at being independent from the West.

      Capitalism means that the people who control the means of production also control politics. That’s not true in China, so that people there can hope for a better life despite AI and robots.

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        13 days ago

        Your saying the working class of China has worked really hard for the ruling class in order to speed run capitalism and this proves they can become independent of the West?

        Also, what you describe is not capitalism, it is fascism (state and corporate merger on policy) The answer is China has many fascist qualities just like the USA. Also, they are great because of the US not despite it.

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          13 days ago

          this proves they can become independent

          Technically the variety of Chinese businesses proofs that and not the amount of wealth.

          Also, what you describe is not capitalism, it is fascism (state and corporate merger on policy) The answer is China has many fascist qualities

          I wanted to say that in China the party holds the power and not the billionaires. Though nowadays billionaires can become members and corruption has given party members billions.

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            13 days ago

            That just it, their goal is not to become independent. They wouldn’t be propping up the entire western world right now if they wanted independence.

            Nowadays China has produced more billionaires than the US for the third straight year in a row with no signs of slowing down.

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              13 days ago

              They don’t want to be dominated by the West. Propping up the West makes the West dependent. Still, China could stop propping at any time.