so…. then it’s the billionaires. got it.
For real. Both sides guy is an idiot.
Both sides are now 30% of the electorate or less (pick your poll, D&R are very close).
Independents are now 40% of the voters.
Both sides is a pretentious asshole, are you seriously suggesting that 30-40% of all politically active US citizens are pretentious assholes?
I am an independent and I have zero issues seeing the ruling class and the culture they have created as the problem. Blaming it on the government is short sighted and plays into the wealthy’s hands. That is just stupid in my book.
The left also thinks corrupt government is a problem
Meanwhile the right proudly advertises their love for corrupt billionaires
This has to be one of the most boomer out-of-touch I’m-a-cool-smart-guy memes I’ve seen on here, and that’s saying something.
Ahh the ‘enlightened centrist’ take, how very boring.
Its not like that at all.
The left is saying billionaire are the problem. Their existence is a sign of corrupt system.
The right is saying all the left is corrupt. They don’t mind their corrupt politicians.
Also everyone should go check how this left meme started. The lady in the picture was actually very calm and reasonable. Perfect metaphor for how the right manipulates the media into creating stories out of nothing.
Corrupt billionaires is redundant. You cannot have billionaires without a corrupting influence on government. Even if there were such a thing as a “good billionaire”, it wouldn’t justify the risks posed by all the bad ones.
This is just acknowledging that the government wouldn’t be corrupt without the billionaires. By the logic of your post, the left is correct and the right is not.
Yes, the post is meant to be pro-left.
But your first sentence in your comment is wrong. Classic correlation is not causation. With the addition of “if X is Y because Z, if Z wouldn’t be, then X wouldn’t be Y”.
We really gotta stop using that girl in memes that make her seem crazy. She was the calmest most reasoned person in that video.
So… Anyone up for Corrupt Socialism? It’s not looking so bad these days, eh?
/r/im14andthisisdeep
Um no, that is not what the “left” thinks.
There are a lot of radically different “left wing” ideologies. The quote, you claim to be left wing could probably be attributed to social democrats, maybe socialists, although not really. And that quote doesn’t really represent a good summary of what they believe.
I, for example am pretty far to the left, I am an anarchist. I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing, be it a companie’s CEO or a government and I advocate for flat hierarchies and the organization of society via specialized assemblies. And of course the ownership of workers of the means of production.
So, I guess I would agree with your quote, as I am against exploitation from the government and from billionaires. I just think, that corruption is the wrong way to look at it. The way, capitalism is going right now is not corruption in the sense that is an “error” in the system. Nor is it the fault of individuals or a group of people. It’s just that capitalism is set up in a way, that it naturally produces and needs these crisees, like faciasm to once again violently reinforce itself and live on. Capitalism will inevitaly lead to concentration of wealth, because of the power imbalance between worker and employer. And this leads to imbalances in power, which you could call corruption.
So, in summary, your statement could be considered leftist, as that is pretty close to what leftists believe. It’s just that a lot of leftists go a bit further and analyze the issue on a systemic level rather than an individual one.
Also, the right is not authentically against governmental corruption, look at them cheering on ice raids or the war in Iran. Wanting to spend more money in state violence is the most “pro-government” thing, I could think of.
I believe, that all forms of unjust hierarchy are a bad thing
What exactly do you think is a just hierarchy? Where is the line?
There is none. That’s why I am an anarchist. I guess, I worded that in a bad way.
Edit: Maybe, the one exception, I can think of is parents and their children, because children are not fully developed and are missing some important abilities to fully participate in society. Still, of course I believe in letting your child participate and encouraging them to exercise and their autonomy, but there are limits.
I think that must be the most cold take anyone has ever had in the entire history of thinking. There were mollusks who already understood this. This isn’t news to anyone.
Idk still seems like a majority of people still think if “their side” was in power it would fix everything.
In my country my side is in power and they’re all useless. But it’s still better than the alternative, at least we’re not at war with Iran alongside the US and Israel. Which is what would have happened otherwise.
Everyone knows it’s the rich and powerful who are in control it’s why socialism is such an appealing idea, and why of course it will never happen.
The right in the US only says what their cult leader tells them to say. If he says the government is bad (which he often does when he’s not the one running it), it’s bad, but when he says it’s good, (which he often does when he’s the one running it) they say it’s good.
Pretty sure the Leftist there would agree
