• Wudi@feddit.ukOP
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    2 months ago

    It gets worse. His brother lied. His father tried to cover up the victim’s injuries by propping him up. His mother hid the knife.

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        2 months ago

        They have all been charged, I believe the mother has been found guilty and is due to be sentenced soon and the father and brother are in jail awaiting trial.

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      Ok, but why did the murderer stab the guy? They have an allegedly false reason that has been given, and also only relies on witness testimony. So what was the allegedly true reason???

      Edit: found out why. He snapped after being instigated by racism.

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        Motive is over rated, how would you find out if everyone who’s still alive refuses to tell the truth?

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    This is just cops being cops. They decide who’s guilty and innocent immediately and then treat people that way.

    This is exactly why you should support minorities being treated fairly. While they’re the ones who get this treatment 95 times out of 100, the point is that skin color isn’t gonna save you. When cops decide they don’t like you, you’re fucked.

    The murderers here did a good job of presenting the guy as the scumbag, and honestly it doesn’t take much of a nudge to get the cops to judge someone.

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    Because this has been co-opted by the far-right and has already instigated an organised violent mob (including notorious white supremacist Tommy Robinson and leader of far-right party Reform Nigel Farage) to attack police and try to get to the murderer’s family’s home (these same groups tried to burn asylum-seekers alive a year or two ago) and the doxxing of two officers who are falsely being claimed to be the officers involved, let’s have some facts

    To preface this: none of this is excusing or justifying the actions of the police. There is an investigation underway, and it’s unquestionably true that there are serious issues which need to be addressed. This is just the facts of the case, as laid out in court, by the coroner, and by the presiding judge in his summation

    The police *did* check for stab wounds and when they found them they immediately uncuffed him and started administering medical help. He was cuffed for 1 minute. He was getting help 3 minutes after the police first arrived

    The knife had penetrated a vein close to his lungs. There is nothing anybody could have done to save him, even if it had been an ambulance full of surgeons who had arrived instead of the police, because nobody could have found and got to the vein in time

    It was dark, and he was wearing dark clothes which, coupled with the internal nature of his injuries, made it difficult to see that he had been stabbed

    It is very common for someone who has been cuffed to claim to be ill or injured in order to be uncuffed and to try to escape

    The murder weapon had already been removed from the scene by the time the police arrived

    It was the murderer who called the police, reporting himself as the victim and his victim as the perpetrator. He had members of his family with him who backed up his side of the story

    Again, this doesn’t excuse what happened or eliminate the obvious systemic failures. But before going in all guns blazing, make sure you know the full facts, and be conscious of whose narrative you may be amplifying. Also bear in mind that the family have said that they hold the murderer “100% responsible” for Nowak’s death, and that they do not want this incident to be used to spread division